Tuesday, February 05, 2008

Imputation study by Mr Pounds 3

Eternal Imputation 3
Why Christ Did Become Incarnate, or can Abstract Deity partake
of both Good and Evil?Gen.22 (3:23) And {1} God said, Behold, Adam is become as one of us, to know good and evil, and now lest at any time he stretch forth his hand, and take of the tree of life and eat, and so he shall live forever––{1) Alex. +the Lord} LXX.22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: AV.James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:De 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.Job 34:10 Therefore hearken unto me, ye men of understanding: far be it from God, that he should do wickedness; and from the Almighty, that he should commit iniquity.By Abstract Deity, I mean the Diving Beings without the Incarnation of the God-Man or the Word’s assumption of flesh and blood. In my opinion the Trinity of Deity, in their pure spiritual state, cannot sin or have sin either imputed or imparted unto them. Since this is ture, neither can the entire Trinity, in their upre and abstract spiritual state, make an atonement for sin or reconclile the Father little Children unto God.James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.Since this is true, neither can the entire Trinity, in their pure and abstract spiritual state, make an atonement for sin or reconcile the Father’s little Children unto God.The Holy Trinity cannot actually bear sins in their pure spiritual state. Sin is primarily the fruit of the flesh. I know there are exceptions such as Lucifer, but I am speaking concerning mankind. Lucifer could sin, but not make atonement for his own sins. Men can and do sin, and make typical sacrifices to make a typical atonement for their sins.Elohem, denoting the Trinity of Divine Beings or Jehovah, in union with the God-Man, the Mediator, did know both good and evil before Adam and Eve did sin and by that, did know both good and evil.Elohem learned evil by the imputation of sin and iniquity unto the Mediator. The God-Man learned evil only in a decretive way before all creation when the sins of His people were imputed unto Him in decree. Adam and Eve learned evil by actual sin following creation.Elohem knew evil only through and by means of the union of Jehovah with the Mediator. God the Eternal Word, the Second Being in the Trinity, by the hypostatic union, did enable the Divine Beings in their pure spiritual state, to know good and evil. The Divine Trinity did not know evil in their Jehovah-like state, the Divine Nature considered without union with the Mediator, and they did not learn goodness. The reason they did not learn goodness is because they were already in possession of every good within their own Divine Natures and Beings and needed not to acquire further goodness.James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.Our Lord Jesus Christ, considered in the totality of His complex person, Divine and Man, was able to become complete in His knolwledge by His obedience. Involved in this was His obedience unto the death of the Cross. He learned this two ways, by decree and then by actual fact. By learning this, through His union with the Divine Beings, They could say they knew both good and evil.The learning of Christ was and is only in His manhood, not in His Godhood. Christ’s learning obedience concerned ONLY His essential being as a Son.Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.Christ experienced the actual knowledge of good and evil as a Son after Mary fashioned Him into the form of His manhood. As a man He humbled Himself and suffered and died for His people on the Cross.Further proof that the Divine Beings in their pure and abstract spiritual state did not and could not have suffered for sins, and learned evil by the imputation of sin, is evidenced by the fact that Christ did this in His Sacred manhood and not in His deity. The only way that Christ experienced these in His Deity was by union with His humanity, not by actual being or fact.Christ shed His blood on the Cross in His sacred humanity. He offered a better, or heavenly sacrifice unto the Father than all the earthly sacrifices of the first covenant. He, by the hypostatic union, made atonement and ransomed the Church of God by the very blood of God.Acts 20:28, though denied a place in the Gnostic or Egyptian texts of Westcott and Hort, is a continuing testimony to the Hypostatic union between the Man Christ Jesus and God the eternal Word.Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers,to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.God has not blood except by the hypostatic union. The shedding of the Blood of God did occur decretively before and from the foundation of the world, and actually when Christ Jesus did die on the cross.In the New Testament Christ is said to have made the atonement:1. On the Cross;Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:Heb 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.2. In His Own body prepared by God or in His flesh, the Father’s hidden manna;Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:John 6:31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.48 I am that bread of life.49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.Re 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.3. When He died;Ro 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.1Co 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.Col 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:2Ti 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;Heb 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And shed His own blood, the blood of God. Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.1Co 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?Heb 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,Heb 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.Heb 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.The very blood of Jesus Christ is His own blood that He created while He was in the womb of the Virgin Mary, and at the same time by the Hypostatic Union with God the Eternal Word, is the very blood of God.Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:I want to come to a conclusion by repeating an opening statement:Since this is true, neither can the entire Trinity, in their pure and abstract spiritual state, make an atonement for sin or reconcile the Father’s little Children unto God.The Holy Trinity cannot actually bear sins in their pure spiritual state. Sin is primarily the fruit of the flesh. I know there are exceptions such as Lucifer, but I am speaking concerning mankind. Lucifer could sin, but not make atonement for his own sins. Men can and do sin, and make typical sacrifices to make a typical atonement for their sins.The LXX and the KJV:6 All we as sheep have gone astray; every one has gone astray in his way; and the Lord gave him up for our sins.6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.7 And he, because of his affliction, opens not his mouth: {1} he was led as a sheep to the slaughter, and as a lamb before the shearer is dumb, so he opens not his mouth. {1) Gr. Ac 8:32, 33}7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.8 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken away from the earth: because of the iniquities of my people he was led to death.8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.9 And I will give the wicked for his burial, and the rich for his death; {1} for he practised no iniquity, nor craft with his mouth. {1) 1 Pe 2:22}9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.10 The Lord also is pleased to purge him from his stroke. If ye can give an offering for sin, your soul shall see a long–lived seed:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.11 the Lord also is pleased to take away from the travail of his soul, to shew him light, and to form him with understanding; to justify the just one who serves many well; and he shall bear their sins.11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.12 Therefore he shall inherit many, and he shall divide the spoils of the mighty; because his soul was delivered to death: and {1} he was numbered among the transgressors; and he bore the sins of many, and was delivered because of their iniquities. {1) Mk 15:28}12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.The LXX alone:Isa. 53:6 All we as sheep have gone astray; every one has gone astray in his way; and the Lord gave him up for our sins.7 And he, because of his affliction, opens not his mouth: {1} he was led as a sheep to the slaughter, and as a lamb before the shearer is dumb, so he opens not his mouth. {1) Gr. Ac 8:32, 33}8 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken away from the earth: because of the iniquities of my people he was led to death.9 And I will give the wicked for his burial, and the rich for his death; {1} for he practised no iniquity, nor craft with his mouth. {1) 1 Pe 2:22}10 The Lord also is pleased to purge him from his stroke. If ye can give an offering for sin, your soul shall see a long–lived seed:11 the Lord also is pleased to take away from the travail of his soul, to shew him light, and to form him with understanding; to justify the just one who serves many well; and he shall bear their sins.12 Therefore he shall inherit many, and he shall divide the spoils of the mighty; because his soul was delivered to death: and {1} he was numbered among the transgressors; and he bore the sins of many, and was delivered because of their iniquities. {1) Mk 15:28} LXXFrom the LXX Interlinear:Isaiah 53:11And the lord willed by his hand to remove misery of his soul, to show to him light, and to shape in the understanding; to justify the just one, the good one serving many, and their sins he shall bear].53:12 On account of this he shall inherit many; of the strong ones he will portion out spoils, because [was delivered up unto death his soul]; and among to the lawless ones he was considered]; and he himself [the sins of many bore], and because of their lawless deeds he was delivered up.Special thanks to Brother David H. our webmaster, for providing this special LXX-Interlinear

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